Revision Eilu Metzios 25b

What is the דין if you find tied up birds behind a wooden or stone fence?

• Don't touch them

• Take and announce

What is the דין if you find tied up birds in the paths of the fields?

• Don't touch them

• Take and announce

What is the דין if you find a כלי hidden in an אשפה [rubbish heap]?

• Don't touch them

• Take and announce

What is the דין if you find a כלי uncovered in an אשפה [rubbish heap]?

• Don't touch them

• Take and announce

Wouldn't it be better to take and announce tied up birds which you find, even if the owner will come back for them?

• no, because they have no סימן so the owner won't be able to claim them back from you

• no, they could be dangerous and bite you. The owner knows how to handle them

• no, they are not worth much money so it's not worth your while. The owner can get them if he wants

Why can't the owner use the knot on the tied up birds as a סימן?

• their wings are tied together, which is the way everyone does it

• a "knot" can "not" be a סימן [get it?]

• the knot changes from the way he tied it because the birds flap their wings

Why can't the owner use the location of the tied up birds as a סימן?

• they are hopping around, so they wouldn't be in the same place as the owner left them

• it's beyond the 5km limit from his farm so he doesn't want to show that he went beyond

• Anyone could guess the location, it's not a proof that he's the owner

The ברייתא seems to contradict our משנה, because it says if you find a כלי hidden in an אשפה [rubbish heap], you should:

• not touch it

• take it and announce

רב זביד answers that the משנה and ברייתא don't contradict, because they are discussing different cases.

What are they?

Select the two correct answers

• משנה - barrels and cups

• ברייתא - knives and forks

• משנה - strings of fish

• ברייתא - piles of money

רב פפא answers that the משנה and ברייתא don't contradict, because they are discussing different cases.

What are they?

Select the two correct answers

• משנה - rubbish heap which is normally NOT cleared away

• ברייתא - rubbish heap which the owner decided to clear away

• משנה - rubbish heap of recyclable material

• ברייתא - rubbish heap of non-biodegradable material