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What was Rami Bar Chama's first question in the case where the lady had her husband's slave with a Gett written on his hand?

• Can you write a Gett on something living?

• Do we assume that the slave belongs to her now?

• Do we assume that a Gett can be written on skin?

• Do we assume that she knows that she has to give the slave to the husband?

What was Rava's question on Rami Bar Chama's shayla?

• You can use Edei mesira?

• You can't write on something living?

• A lady doesn't know how to give over ownership?

• A Gett shouldn't be able to be written on a slave's skin, because it can be erased?

Why does Rava understand how a Gett can be written on a slave in the Mishna but doesn't understand why Rami Bar Chama allows it?

• In the mishna there weren't witnesses when it was given over, but in Rami Bar Chama's case there were

• In the mishna the slave was dead, but not in Rami Bar Chama's case

• In the Mishna the slave was alive but not in Rami Bar Chama's case

• In the mishna there are witnesses that see it given over but not in Rami Bar Chama's case

How does the gemara explain why you can write a Gett on an eved's skin (even though ink on skin can be erased)?

• As long as you can still see the ink, it is kosher

• You are allowed to write on surfaces that can be erased

• It was tattooed on, so it can't be erased.

• If the eved is dead, it can't be erased

What was Rami Bar Chama's 2nd question (with the Tablet)?

• If he writes it on her tablet, do we assume that she gave it to him first?

• If she writes it on his tablet, do we assume that he gave ownership of the tablet to her?

• Are you allowed to write a Gett on a Tablet?

• Is engraving on a Tablet considered to be writing?

How did Abaye answer Rami Bar Chama's question from the story of the zakein?

• We see that the zakein can lend money to more than 1 person at once, so too the lady.

• We see that the zakein was alloed to use engraving for a shtar, so too the lady

• We see that the zakein knows to be makneh the shtar to the borrowers, so too the lady knows to be makneh the Tablet to the man.

• We see that the zakein was allowed to write the loan document on a Tablet, so too the lady can

Why does Rava say that Abaye's proof from the zakein is not a proof?

• Maybe the zakein didn't engrave it

• Maybe the zakein didn't use a Tablet

• Maybe only man knows the halacha, but not a lady

• Maybe only a zakein knows the halacha, but not a regular person

How did Rava try to answer Rami Bar chama's question from the guarantor?

• A guarantor doesn't use his own paper, but he must own it before he can obligate himslef

• A guarantor only pays from free lands, not from lands with a lien

• A guarantor cannot use engraving to obligate himself

• A guarantor can use engraving to obligate himself

Why does R' Ashi say that the case of the guarantor is not a proof?

• Maybe men know the halacha but a lady doesn't

• Maybe a guarantor is allowed to obligate himself because he's doing a favor

• Maybe a guarantor doesn't use engraving

• Maybe a guarantor is a zakein

How does R' Ashi prove Rami Bar Chama's question from writing a Gett?

• The Mishna says that a lady can engrave a Gett

• From the fact that it says in the Mishna that a lady can write it on a tablet

• If a lady knows the halachos of writing a Gett, she must also know the halachos of giving a Gett

• From the fact that a lady can write a Gett on her own paper, it shows that she knows she has to be makneh it to the man before getting it back