Interview with Italian PM Matteo Renzi Pt 4

The transcript discusses the potential negative impact of the UK leaving the EU, emphasizing the importance of the UK's role in Europe. It highlights the need for Europe to remain an ideal rather than becoming bureaucratic. The speaker stresses the importance of supporting the European Commission and the urgency of institutional change, suggesting that both the UK and Europe would lose if the UK exits.

What emotional response does the speaker recall regarding the changes in Europe?

What does the speaker mean by 'lose lose' in the context of the UK and Europe?