WorksheetsPas Ha'Ba'ah B'Kisnin review
Total questions: 15
Worksheet time: 11mins
It's important to know what פת הבאה בכיסנין is because
I have to know which bread-like foods are automatically המוציא
it'll be on the test
I have to know which bread-like foods are usually מזונות
I have to know which bread-like foods need הפרשת חלה, obligation to separate חלה from the batter
"Real" bread is:
פת הבאה בכיסנין
המוציא
obligated in ברכת המזון if I eat a כזית
a מצוה
״Kind-of" bread:
is פת הבאה בכיסנין
is מזונות if eaten in non-meal proportions/manner
is על המחיה if eaten in non-meal proportions/manner
can potentially be המוציא/ברכת המזון
There are different definitions/examples of פת הבאה בכיסנין found in the ראשונים;
We'll only make a מזונות if it matches ALL the descriptions
We'll only make a המוציא if it matches ALL the descriptions
We'll make a המוציא if it matches EVEN ONE the descriptions
We'll make a מזונות if it matches EVEN ONE the descriptions
One definition of פת הבאה בכיסנין is that it's a כיס, a pocket. This would include:
Cake
Knish
Blintz
Pizza
A second definition [the Sefardi version] is that any dough which has a significant taste from eggs, sugar, honey, nuts, fruit, etc is פת הבאה בכיסנין. This would include:
Cake
Egg Challah
Cookies
Cinnamon-raisin bread
A second definition [the Ashkenzi version] is that any dough whose significant component is eggs, sugar, honey, nuts, fruit, etc is פת הבאה בכיסנין. This would include:
Cake
Egg Challah
Cookies
Cinnamon-raisin bread
A third definition of פת הבאה בכיסנין is that the "bread" is dry and crumbly, with a cracker-like consistency. This would include
Egg Challah
Cookies
Matzah crackers
Flatbread
Apple pie is פת הבאה בכיסנין because it's:
a pocket
has a significant flavor in the dough from sugar/honey/etc [only for Sefardim]
significant component is the sugar/honey/fruit/etc
crumbly, flaky consistency
Chocolate chip cookies are פת הבאה בכיסנין because it's:
a pocket
has a significant flavor in the dough from sugar/honey/etc [only for Sefardim]
significant component is the sugar/honey/fruit/etc
crumbly, flaky consistency
Cinnamon raisin bagels are פת הבאה בכיסנין because it's:
a pocket
has a significant flavor in the dough from sugar/honey/etc [only for Sefardim]
significant component is the sugar/honey/fruit/etc
crumbly, flaky consistency
Apple turnovers are פת הבאה בכיסנין because it's:
a pocket
has a significant flavor in the dough from sugar/honey/etc [only for Sefardim]
significant component is the sugar/honey/fruit/etc
crumbly, flaky consistency
I would wash/say המוציא and ברכת המזון on פת הבאה בכיסנין if
I'm all confused and under-caffeinated -- you should never do that!
you eat the פת הבאה בכיסנין in proportions of קביעת סעודה, a fixed, meal-type eating
you eat the פת הבאה בכיסנין in a manner of קביעת סעודה, a fixed, meal-type eating
if you have a serious craving
The bottom-line halachah, according to many great poskim, is that the proportions of קביעת סעודה are
volume of 4 eggs
volume of 6 eggs
volume of 22 eggs
the quantity eaten for meal-purposes in your time and place
Manner of קביעת סעודה: even if I eat less than the quantities of fixed, meal eating, I will still be obligated in המוציא/ברכת המזון if
I ate the פת הבאה בכיסנין in a way "real" bread is eaten with meals e.g. substituting for real bread in a sandwich
I am disoriented, confused, stressed [b/c I'm busy hallucinating that a Hilchos Brachos quiz was announced] i.e., never! #trick_question
if I derive significant enjoyment from the פת הבאה בכיסנין
if it only matches one description of פת הבאה בכיסנין
