WorksheetsYeush Shelo Midaat
Total questions: 16
Worksheet time: 11mins
What is: יֵאוּש שֶלֹא מִדעת ?
Giving up hope for no good reason
Giving up hope before the finder sees it
Owner gives up hope before he knows he lost it
How is it possible to say the owner gives up even before he knows he lost it?
Because he has a siman.
He doesn't have a siman.
Yeush goes into effect earlier because we are certain he will give up later anyway.
Simon is going to Flatbush
Which Amora holds that we DON'T say that יֵאוּש שֶלֹא מִדעת is considered Yeush
Rava
Abaye
Which Amora holds:
יֵאוּש שֶלֹא מִדעת הַוֵי יֵאוּשׁ ?
Abaye
Rava
Dovi Gertelman
Explain
יֵאוּש שֶלֹא מִדעת הַוֵי יֵאושׁ
Since the owner will give up on it eventually, it is already considered ownerless now
The owner doesn't know he lost it - so the finder can't take it.
Akiva will play for the Brooklyn Nets
What does this phrase mean?
יֵאוּש שֶלֹא מִדעת לֹא הַוֵי יֵאוּשׁ
We don't consider eventual Yeush as valid now.
Yeush that happens later applies even before he knows he lost it.
As long as you don't give up, you still own it.
Who holds: יֵאוּש שֶלֹא מִדעת לֹא הַוֵי יֵאוּשׁ
Abaye
Rava
What does this mean?
יֵאוּש שֶלֹא מִדעת הַוֵי יֵאוּשׁ
Yeush that happens later can go into effect now
Eventual Yeush is not good for now.
If you eat Jachnoon, you will live a long life
An owner realizes that he lost his object, he has Yeush...then what happens?
The finder CAN'T keep it.
Object becomes ownerless
so the finder can keep it
If NO Siman, the finder can keep it.
It is FORBIDDEN
Which Amora holds:
יֵאוּש שֶלֹא מִדעת הַוֵי יֵאוּשׁ
Abaye
Rava
Patrick Mahomes
Do Abaye and Rava DISAGREE in ALL CASES?
NO
Yes
Maybe
Do Abaye and Rava AGREE in a case where the object DOES have a Siman?
YES! They agree that if it has a siman, there is NO Yeush.
No. Abaye says it's not Yeush and Rava says it is Yeush.
They only argue in a case where there is NO siman,
If an object with a Siman is washed away by the ocean, do Abaye and Rava agree that you CAN keep it?
No. They disagree. Abaye says Lo Havei Yeush.
YES. They both agree that the finder can keep it.
If there is no siman, he won't know to whom it belongs.
In which situation do Rava and Abaye ARGUE?
When there is a siman
When the object is washed away by an ocean
When there is NO siman on the object
They argue in ALL cases
What is the case of
זוּטוֹ שֶׁל יַם
There is NO siman
The object has a SIMAN but is washed away
Rava Argues
They both disagree
Check all cases where Abaye and Rava AGREE
Object has a Siman
Object DOES NOT have Siman
Ocean washed it away (has Siman)
Scattered grains
