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What was Rami Bar Chama's first question in the case where the lady had her husband's slave with a Gett written on his hand?
Can you write a Gett on something living?
Do we assume that the slave belongs to her now?
Do we assume that a Gett can be written on skin?
Do we assume that she knows that she has to give the slave to the husband?
What was Rava's question on Rami Bar Chama's shayla?
You can use Edei mesira?
You can't write on something living?
A lady doesn't know how to give over ownership?
A Gett shouldn't be able to be written on a slave's skin, because it can be erased?
Why does Rava understand how a Gett can be written on a slave in the Mishna but doesn't understand why Rami Bar Chama allows it?
In the mishna there weren't witnesses when it was given over, but in Rami Bar Chama's case there were
In the mishna the slave was dead, but not in Rami Bar Chama's case
In the Mishna the slave was alive but not in Rami Bar Chama's case
In the mishna there are witnesses that see it given over but not in Rami Bar Chama's case
How does the gemara explain why you can write a Gett on an eved's skin (even though ink on skin can be erased)?
As long as you can still see the ink, it is kosher
You are allowed to write on surfaces that can be erased
It was tattooed on, so it can't be erased.
If the eved is dead, it can't be erased
What was Rami Bar Chama's 2nd question (with the Tablet)?
If he writes it on her tablet, do we assume that she gave it to him first?
If she writes it on his tablet, do we assume that he gave ownership of the tablet to her?
Are you allowed to write a Gett on a Tablet?
Is engraving on a Tablet considered to be writing?
How did Abaye answer Rami Bar Chama's question from the story of the zakein?
We see that the zakein can lend money to more than 1 person at once, so too the lady.
We see that the zakein was alloed to use engraving for a shtar, so too the lady
We see that the zakein knows to be makneh the shtar to the borrowers, so too the lady knows to be makneh the Tablet to the man.
We see that the zakein was allowed to write the loan document on a Tablet, so too the lady can
Why does Rava say that Abaye's proof from the zakein is not a proof?
Maybe the zakein didn't engrave it
Maybe the zakein didn't use a Tablet
Maybe only man knows the halacha, but not a lady
Maybe only a zakein knows the halacha, but not a regular person
How did Rava try to answer Rami Bar chama's question from the guarantor?
A guarantor doesn't use his own paper, but he must own it before he can obligate himslef
A guarantor only pays from free lands, not from lands with a lien
A guarantor cannot use engraving to obligate himself
A guarantor can use engraving to obligate himself
Why does R' Ashi say that the case of the guarantor is not a proof?
Maybe men know the halacha but a lady doesn't
Maybe a guarantor is allowed to obligate himself because he's doing a favor
Maybe a guarantor doesn't use engraving
Maybe a guarantor is a zakein
How does R' Ashi prove Rami Bar Chama's question from writing a Gett?
The Mishna says that a lady can engrave a Gett
From the fact that it says in the Mishna that a lady can write it on a tablet
If a lady knows the halachos of writing a Gett, she must also know the halachos of giving a Gett
From the fact that a lady can write a Gett on her own paper, it shows that she knows she has to be makneh it to the man before getting it back
What was Rava's 1st statement regarding a Gett and a slave?
If a man writes a Gett on a slave's hand and gives her the slave, she is divorced
If a man writes a Gett on a slave's hand and gives her the slave, she is not divorced
If a man writes a Gett on a paper and puts it in a slave's hand and gives her the slave, she is divorced.
If a man writes a Gett on a paper and puts it in a slave's hand and gives her the slave, she is not divorced.
What was the gemara's question on Rava's statement about putting the Gett in the slave's hand?
How could that work, you can't write a Gett on something that can be erased?
How could that work, the slave can move so he can't acquire it like your property could?
Why shouldn't it work if he's tied up?
Why should you have to tie up the slave?
How does the Gemara answer the question of "Chatzer Mehaleches" (you can't acquire something through an eved if the eved moves)?
It's talking about a case where you wrote the Gett on the Eved's skin.
An eved is different than a courtyard and can work even if he moves
It's talking about a case where he is tied up
It's talking about a case where he is standing still
What was Rava's 2nd statement (about a courtyard)?
If you put a Gett into a courtyard and give her the courtyard, she is not divorced.
If you put a Gett into a courtyard and give her the courtyard, she is divorced.
If you put a Gett into someone else's courtyard and tell the guy to give the courtyard to the girl, she is divorced.
Courtyard's can only work if they are standing still, but not of they can move
If Rava only taught us his halacha by putting the Gett in the slave's hand, why might I think that it doesn't work by the courtyard? (Why does he need to teach is both things)
Because a courtyard doesn't work against her will
Because of a Gezeira that you might allow it when the slave is not tied up
Because a courtyard doesn't move
Because of a Gezeira that you might allow it when it was in someone else's courtyard.
If Rava only taught us his halacha by putting the Gett in the courtyard, why might I think that it doesn't work by putting it in the slave's hand? (Why does he need to teach us both things)
Because of a Gezeira that you might allow it when you put it in someone else's courtyard
Because of a Gezeira that you might allow it when the slave is not tied up
Because you can't write a Gett on skin
Because you can't give her the slave against her will
What does Abaye say that we learn from the fact that divorcing her through putting the Gett in a "Courtyard" is learned out from divorcing her through putting it in her "Hand"?
Just like you can put it in her hands against her will, so too you need to be able to put it in her courtyard against her will
Just like her hands can be moving, so too you need to put it in a courtyard that can move
Just like you cannot put it in her hands against her will, so too you can't put it in a courtyard against her will
She must be standing next to the courtyard if you divorce her by putting the Gett in there
Why does Abaye feel that Rava's halacha of putting the Gett in the courtyard is wrong?
Because it belongs to a third party, so she is not getting it straight from the husband
Because she doesn't have to accept the courtyard against her will, and we need it to be a case that could work against her will.
Because it needs to be a courtyard that can move.
Becuase you can force her to accept the courtyard and the Gett
From what case did R' Simi ask on Abaye that we see that he can divorce her in a situation when it would not work against her will?
When she writes the Gett, he can't force her to accept it, but it still works.
When he puts it in a slave's hand, he can't force her to accept the slave, but it still works.
When she sends the shliach, the husband can't force the shliach to accept it for her, but it still works
When the husband puts it in his courtyard, he can't force her to accept it, but it still works
What 2 answers did Abaye give to R' Simi's question? (2 correct answers)
Shlichus is not learned from "Yad", it's learned from a different pasuk
In fact, the husband can force the shliach that the wife sent to accept it in any case
He can divorce with a shliach against her will in a case when she is a minor and the father sends the shliach.
A shliach has the same halacha as the person who sent him
What question did the Gemara ask on the Halacha of the Mishna of writing a Gett on the horn of a cow?
Why can you write on a horn of a cow? A cow moves and you can only write on things that don't move?
Why can you write on a horn? A horn can be erased?
Why do you have to give the whole cow? Why not chop off the horn and give it to her?
Why are you allowed to write on a horn? You can't write on something that's alive?
How does the Gemara explain why you have to give her the whole cow?
We learn it out from "Yad" that it has to be attached to the rest of the body
You are not allowed to cause the cow pain by chopping off its horn
the pasuk says “write and give “ you have to be able to give it right after you write it
The horn is not worth anything and it has to have some value
