How Does The Cross Save Us?

How Does The Cross Save Us?

Multiple Select

Jesus Sacrifice on the cross saved us from (select all that apply)

• Eternal Separation from God (Hell)

• Slavery to Sin

• Death

Multiple Select

Select all of the following that are theologically correct descriptions of how Jesus cross saves us.

• Because of Sin we deserve to be punished, and God must punish somebody, so Jesus was punished in our place instead.

• Jesus died on the cross so that I no longer have to suffer.

• God has intense anger against sin and so God vented his anger upon the innocent Jesus so that The Father's anger could be appeased.

• Jesus' death has value because of his infinite love he has shown and because of his obedience to the Father

• A just judge can't say to a criminal in his courtroom "I'm forgiving your offense" because the judge has to punish the evil the criminal did. Jesus steps in and takes the punishment that had to be paid.

Vocab

associated with forgiveness and pardoning somebody for something wrong they have done.

The store owner decides not to press charges, speaks with the teen about the harm caused, and lets them go with a warning.

​Mercy

respecting the rights of others and giving them what is rightfully theirs. This is giving someone what they are owed.

A teenager is caught shoplifting. The store reports it, and the teen must return the item and complete community service per local law.

Justice

Multiple Choice

_______________ means respecting the rights of others and giving them what is rightfully theirs. This is giving someone what they are owed.

• Mercy

• Beatitudes

• Joy

• Justice

Multiple Choice

_______________ is associated with forgiveness and pardoning somebody for something wrong they have done.

• Mercy

• Beatitudes

• Joy

• Justice

Multiple Choice

Is this mercy or justice?

A student turns in an essay a day late and loses the standard 10% per the syllabus.

• Mercy

• Justice

Multiple Choice

Is this mercy or justice?

The teacher learns the student had a family emergency and accepts the paper with no penalty.

• Mercy

• Justice

Poll

Do you think this is unjust?

Phil steals money from Jane

• Yes

• No

Poll

Do you think Anne's Dad is being just?

Phil murdered Anne.

Anne's Dad is extremely angry and says "somebody has to pay for this crime!" so Anne's Dad kills a different neighbor, Dave, and let Phil go free. Anne's Dad says "Now my anger can be at rest, because somebody paid the price."

• Yes

• No

Penal Substitution Theory

Penal = Penalty.
Substitution = Something else took its place.
Penal Substitution Theory = "Somebody had to serve the prison sentence so we applied the penalty to a substitute person. They were innocent, but they are going to serve the jail time on behalf of the guilty person"

Penal Substitution says that "Humanity sinned and the price of sin is death. God was angry at sin and hated it, so he had to punish somebody. He can't just "wipe it away". So the innocent Jesus steps in and says "I'll take the punishment that guilty-humanity should have paid!" Then God poured all of his wrath and anger on Jesus so that he didn't have to pour his anger on humanity. Thus the debt is paid and we are right with God."

Poll

Thoughts so far on Penal Substitution Theory?

• very just

• kinda just

• unsure

• unjust

• very unjust

Poll

Do you think this JUDGE is unjust?

Bob's dog was killed by his neighbor Frank.

Bob takes Frank to court.

The judge says "Im gonna forgive you, Frank. No punishment today"

• Yes

• No

Poll

Do you think what BOB says is unjust?

Bob's dog was killed by his neighbor Frank.

Bob takes Frank to court.

Bob says "Im gonna forgive you, Frank. I'm dropping charges. I see that you are truly sorry for what you did and wish it never happened, and you even helped me bury my dog yesterday. That satisfies what I needed"

• Yes

• No

Multiple Choice

Joe Heschmeyer just referenced another Youtube video. What did that video say about God forgiving sin?

• God is just and therefore he must punish sin. He can't just forgive it.

• God is all merciful and therefore can forgive all of our sin.

• God is just but he can still forgive in.

Poll

Do you agree with that Youtube video's point? That God can't just wipe away sin because somebody must be punished?

• Yes

• No

• Idk

• Depends

Multiple Choice

How does our speaker feel about the following idea: "God can't just forgive sin because that would make him unjust. He must punish sin"

• He says that is an incorrect view

• He agrees with that idea

Multiple Choice

In the courtroom analogy, why can’t a human judge simply “forgive” a crime?

• The Judge is a sinner and cannot forgive wrongs that people have done against him. Human sinners cannot forgive things that have been done against the,.

• The judge himself wasn't wronged, so he can't wave away a crime that was done against somebody else because it is the grieving person's choice to forgive or not, and the jduge is there to get justice for another person.

• The judge lacks the intelligence to judge cases as well as God can, so they are bound to make mistakes and judge incorrectly. For this reason a judge can't wave away a crime.

• Nobody can ever wave away a crime. Crimes have to be punished.

Multiple Choice

In the courtroom analogy, why CAN the grieved party forgive a crime?

• The grieved party can forgive a crime because it was done against them

• The grieved party can't do that

• The grieved party can forgive a crime because they are feeling bad for what they did.

Multiple Choice

What misunderstanding about “God's justice” does the speaker say is popular, but incorrect?

• That justice and mercy are unrelated

• That God must punish every sin because He is bound by a higher law

• That only Jesus can forgive sins

• That Old Testament justice differs from New Testament justice

Multiple Select

Why is it wrong to say that "God must punish every sin because He is bound by a higher law" (Select all that apply)

• Judges actually are allowed to pardon and dismiss any crime for any reason whatsoever, so God can too.

• God is the highest authority and He doesn't submit to some "law" that is above Him.

• Sin is against God, and so if He chooses He can forgive it without needing to punish anybody.

• This isn't wrong. God has to punish every sin because He indeed is bound by the law of justice thatis greater than Him.

Multiple Choice

According to the speaker (drawing on Aquinas), why could God forgive sins without violating justice?

• Because God delegates judgment to angels

• Because sin is primarily a debt owed to God, so he can forgive it

• Because human courts allow judges to dismiss any case for any reason

• Because forgiveness erases the reality of the offense

Multiple Choice

How does Matthew 18 (the parable of the king and the debtor) support the speaker’s point?

• It shows debts are always collected with interest

• It shows the offended party (the king) may freely forgive an immense debt

• It shows servants must negotiate fair payment plans, which is what happens in the parable and is the reason why the debtor is forgiven

• It shows forgiveness requires all payments to be repaid in full

Multiple Choice

Jesus had to die on the cross. God could not have forgiven our sins any other way.

• True

• False

Poll

Do you think it is true to say that "Humanity sinned and deserved death, therefore God couldn't forgive us unless Jesus died in our place. God needed somebody to die in our place"

• Not theologically true

• Theologically true

Open Ended

Explain why the Penal Substitution Theory is bad theology. Penal Substitution says that "Humanity sinned and the price of sin is death. God was angry at sin and hated it, so he had to punish somebody. He can't just "wipe it away". So the innocent Jesus steps in and says "I'll take the punishment that guilty-humanity should have paid!" Then God poured all of his wrath and anger on Jesus so that he didn't have to pour his anger on humanity. Thus the debt is paid and we are right with God."

Open Ended

What was Reason 1 as to why Jesus Died on the Cross?

Open Ended

What was Reason 2 as to why Jesus Died on the Cross?

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What was Reason 3 as to why Jesus Died on the Cross?

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What was Reason 4 as to why Jesus Died on the Cross?

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What was Reason 5 as to why Jesus Died on the Cross?

Open Ended

What has he presented as 2 views of "Sacrifice" and why do you think Jesus is different than the Aztec sacrifice?

Open Ended

How did Joe Heschmeyer just explain the "Sacrifice of Jesus"?

Open Ended

1. In Sum: Explain how Jesus saves us

2. What is something you think is beneifical to know, or for others to know about how Jesus saved us.