Hakones Unit 7 Part 2

Hakones

Unit 7 Part 2

אִיכָּא דְּאַמְרֵי

There are some who say

another version of the above discussion

Multiple Choice

What does the words אִיכָּא דְּאַמְרֵי imply?

• Answer

• Proof

• Another version of the above

• Kasha

מִדְּקָתָנֵי מְסָרָהּ לְרוֹעֶה וְלָא קָתָנֵי מְסָרָהּ לְאַחַר

From the fact that the Mishnah teaches he gave it to a shepherd, and it doesn't teach he gave it to another person,

ש״מ מַאי מְסָרָהּ לְרוֹעֶה מָסַר רוֹעֶה לברזיליה

Can we hear from this: What does he gave it to a shepherd mean in the Mishnah? It means the shepherd gave it to his apprentice,

דְּאוֹרְחֵיהּ דְּרוֹעָהּ לְמִימְסַר לברזיליה

which is permitted, since it's the established custom for a shepherd to give his sheep to his apprentice to watch.

Multiple Select

Why does the Mishna write that he gave it to a "shepherd" and not simply to another?

• It doesn't matter who watches it

• It means he gave it to someone NORMALLY watches sheep

• The shepherd gave it to his apprentice which is normal case

אֲבָל לְאַחַר לֹא !!!

לֵימַא מְסַיַּיע לֵיהּ לְרָבָא דְּאָמַר רָבָא שׁוֹמֵר שֶׁמָּסַר לְשׁוֹמֵר חַיָּיב

Multiple Select

The mishna implies:

• He ate the last cookie

• That another Shomer would NOT take the place of the Shepherd

• Shomer Shemasar Leshomer is Chayav

Open Ended

Just wondering...

How often do you daven Maariv?

How often do you daven Maariv with a Minyan?

לֹא דִּלְמָא אוֹרְחָא דְמִילְּתָא קָתָנֵי וְהוּא הַדִּין לְאַחַר

No. Maybe it just taught the usual case, but the law is the same if he gave it to another person.

Multiple Choice

Is the Gemara happy with the proof to Rava?

• Yes

• NO

• It is not decided